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Patrick Grauel - Bachelor Student From France

Yana Immis

Why a German would study a Bachelor degree in English in Germany? Why not in the German language? Read this wonderful success story of a consultant from Bali with Munich roots here.

   
Nationality German by passport (French by heart)
Where did you live? Budapest (Hungary), Bali (Indonesia), Loughborough (England)
Are you in Germany? Yes
What is your current occupation? Working
What is your future goal? Own business in Indonesia
Would you like to stay in Germany? Yes

Chapter 1: Citizen of the world

Basically, both of my parents were born in Germany. My father is from the North of Germany, and so is my mother, but if you ask me where I am from, I would say, I’m French.

My mother grew up in France, and that’s where she went to school. She had a tough time learning French as this was a new environment for her, but she put all the efforts and managed. That’s how she became the French person the people know today. She taught my brother and me French. At an early age on we went to a French school in Munich. This way, we spoke French first; German and English at a native level later on (happy childhood). 

My mother is a powerful woman, never underestimate her stubbornness. She would put a lot of pressure on you. In Summer, when all the kids were having the time of their life, I had to do extra work and extra classes. I hated school and, I guess, because of that, I was terrible at this whole studying thing. I first had to learn flute, then rescue-swimming classes, then taekwondo, then transverse flute (another type of flute because obviously there are not enough types of flutes out there) and tennis.

One day I just quit it all, rebelled, destroyed my room and ran away from home. It was raining, not a beautiful day. Whoever is reading this, please do not repeat! I stopped all the hobbies at age 13 due to a lot of pressure – I just couldn’t take it anymore.

It was a turning point…

Actually, a good one. My mother changed. That’s when I started to pick the things I like. I decided to come back to tennis myself and to do the civil service, which until recently was mandatory.

In a nutshell, in Germany, you have 3 options:

  1. Military service - nope to that

  2. Civil service (hospitals & taking care of people)  - nope to that too

  3. FSJ - Freiwilliges Soziales Jahr – one year you get paid “peanuts”, but you do something related to sports and good for society.

Here is what I did: I worked for my very first tennis coach. I was coaching people from schools that have a high number of immigrants. In exchange, the Bavarian state paid for my tennis coach license (The Bavarian state is asking you to pass a couple of written and practical exams to become a licensed tennis coach.) That was cool. I actually learnt to ‘sell myself’and how to become a good tennis coach.

Until today, when I am low on cash, I sign up to teach from time to time.

Chapter 2: Life is about coincidences

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When my civil service was over, I had to make a university choice. I did not even consider outside of Germany, because I made a very decent income as a tennis coach and I find Germany to have some of the best universities. I chose a Bachelor program in the English language with small international groups (25 students per class). In German state universities, the groups can be 200-700 people, that’s not for me.

Since I always felt attracted to good books and movies (usually the best books are always in English), this felt like a natural decision. I was not very sure what to study, so I opted for a degree in business administration because I knew it would open a wide variety of opportunities.

I finished my Bachelor degree with a few ups and downs here and there, and then I thought what do I do next?

Doing a Master degree right away with no work experience? Nah, not for me.

I applied for jobs across the whole world. Germany, the UK, Dubai, Singapore. The criteria for my applications was a company with a great name to get experience and a name on my CV.


I used quantity over quality in applications for jobs.


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I decided not to apply for internships at all, hoping on a lucky scenario. And the lucky scenario happened, by coincidence: I met one guy, who worked for KPMG, mentioned that I would love to work for them and landed in a job.  As easy as that.

The network won’t work for you unless you work for it yourself.

Speak out, apply, go for it! If you can sell yourself well during the interview and CV stages, don’t do an Internship

KMPG in Budapest (Hungary) created a new international department from scratch to take care of taxation and I really thought it could be a good fit. My father always told me if you want to be an entrepreneur, you need to understand a few things: taxation, sales and (corporate) law. If you do not know them, your chances to be successful are under risk.

I knew precisely a career in taxation was nothing for me, and I am pretty sure many people would think the same way, but there is something I could learn here. Looking back my one year at KPMG saved a couple of thousands of euros easily! (Note: if you are looking for a very stable job with high wages, taxation might be something you should look into).

Never underestimate the power of foreign languages and experience abroad, it broadens your horizons and opens doors! In Budapest, as a German, I landed a job easily. It would have been much more challenging to get into the same position in Germany.  I had 2 interview sessions with the leading HR and an assessment center afterward (Excel exam & logical reasoning, which was very weird frankly speaking).

It was not easy to move to Budapest after living all my life in a beautiful city of Munich. I really hesitated to go there a lot, that’s why I visited before sealing the deal.

End result: I fell in love with the architecture - it is a beautiful city. After living there for a year, I realized, that a salary increase is not relative to western countries at all and Hungarian people are pretty tough to handle. They are somehow drawn to pessimism (for historic reasons) and I come from a different cultural background. I was living in the fanciest part of town you could live in. This was really cool. My first job and to have a lovely apartment was a great deal. I was living close to a market and the Hungarian Parliament, so that was pretty cool. Especially Hungary in Summer is insanely beautiful and people are engaging in different activities: Red Bull racing show, Sziget Music Festival, where you can listen to bands like Mumford & Sons among others.

The learning curve at work was precisely what I was expected. Did I see this as a career to fully involve myself in? No. The content was very dry. A clear No. When I learnt everything and saw there was no new topic relevant to me, I decided to move on in my career.

Chapter 3: Life is all about coincidences. Did I mention that?

My dad is the best salesperson existing on the planet Earth.

From every conversation, you learn so much!!! He made a lot of good connections and once at a fair was offered to invest in Indonesia real estate - that’s how he decided to open a resort in Bali. I have never been there and I was against this decision. I didn’t know enough to judge. What I knew is that Bali is a big grey zone that has something to do with corruption and foggy legal circumstances.

Now looking back I am thrilled that he opened a resort. I signed up to bring the hotel to life and moved to Bali for 1.5 years. Together with my father I took part in all negotiations with farmers to lease land and government bodies and learnt everything from scratch: from legal paperwork to construction work to sales and marketing. I learned how to open a business, what to pay attention to, how to do bookkeeping, how to look for real estate option, how to negotiate, how to draw to do groundwork, build a foundation, follow up on construction work, calculate and estimate cost and the list goes on and on and on...

I lived in Bali which was beautiful itself.

Our 4 * Resort in Ubud is one of our biggest achievements. It is a part of the jungle and pure nature, something I feel very attracted to. Late 2020 we will expand to build 8 more pool villas or build a new resort, we are not sure yet.

But all good things come to an end, just like in that Julia Roberts Movie, “Eat, Pray, Love”, once the resort was up and running smoothly, I left Bali for new adventures.

I had a dilemma and fear: How do I explain my transition from KPMG to an unrelated industry?

I was not sure about the answer and felt the calling to pursue a Master Degree in something I truly have a passion for and applied to a small town UK university (top 5 in the UK) for an Economics and Applied Statistics / Data Science Program. I absolutely loved it: this is what you feel when you do Master program with passion. I ended up receiving a fully paid PhD offer at the end of it (which I declined because the city was too small to spend 3 to 4 years in it)

I did simple processes in R for our resort to analyze who our best customers are, and I wanted to be able to do more and to use available data smartly. 

To be able to perform at school and at work, I had to distract myself. That’s when my hobbies were a real help. Apart from tennis, I hike actively in the mountains & engage myself in landscape photography. I am learning how to edit pictures & movies. What would you say?



I also started travelling. My first trips were to Sri Lanka and Oman – so beautiful and so diverse. I just booked my flight to Georgia and my 2 dream destinations are Iceland with Russia. While travelling I started applying for Sales / Consulting jobs related to data analytics & data warehouse in Germany, the UK, Dubai, Sweden. I got 6-7 job offers from 3 countries but only one caught my attention.

Why have I received so many offers? Because I changed my strategy.


Now I used quality over quantity instead of applying like a machine to all applications


I took the whole day to nail the cover letter on the job posting.

I work at an amazing company right now and I am a consultant. From the first interview, I felt good. Cintellic it is a small consultancy focused on data analytics. 1st I had a phone interview, then 2nd interview was in person in Frankfurt with HR and direct manager. The 3rd interview was with a co-owner. It was very casual (Indian restaurant) to see if I am a good fit to meet customers in person. Usually these casual talks for consultancies that are focused on small to middle size enterprises play a big role.

I am assigned to an account in the insurance sector now. We are dealing with a data set of 30 to 50 million lines. Excel and Tableau cannot manage that, that is extremely useless, which is why we build our own Dataware house and use SQL and SAS to manage data sets.


Why I chose Germany out of all countries and this offer out of all companies in particular:

  1. Salary

  2. Holidays (30 paid holiday days per year excluding public holidays)

  3. Legal Framework (contract is very good)

  4. Location and infrastructure

  5. Germany has a shortage of qualified labour


Company is located in Bonn and they have a shared office in Frankfurt and we can use any of the design offices in the whole of Germany.

Transportation is fast and reliable; I can be located anywhere. I am located where my client is during the week. And weekends I spend back home with my family in Munich


Pluses and minuses of being a consultant

A steep learning curve with moving from one project to the next

Good opportunity to make money by side

Travelling (a lot) this can be both good and bad. They send you where you have no friends so that you can dedicate yourself fully to work (and sport)

You work far more than written in your contract.

When you travel it is considered your "free time" so you have to be efficient

New job offers, constantly.


My goal: for the next few years is to create a passive income from real estate, as I am interested in investment towards Indonesia. I want to build real estate there. I believe a villa in Bali is a much more sound and solid investment than real estate in Germany.

It is not for everybody, of course, but not everybody is my client. I am trying to involve my brother to work with me on this, he is working in Frankfurt in the financial sector and has incredible knowledge. Let’s see how that goes. I do believe, that we are on the right track (looking back).

Wish us luck!

Recommended by me reading for you. Read these books, you won’t regret. They help you shape your mind and set future goals!


Gunjan Kandarp Kapdi - MBA Student From India

Yana Immis

Meet Gunjan Kandarp Kapdi. A vegetarian Indian that doesn’t drink alcohol. She came to Bavaria without the German language to do her MBA degree. You can read her study in Germany success story here.

Summary

Place of Birth Gujarat, India
Nationality Indian
Where did you live? Gujarat, Rajkot (India)
Education Level Prior to Relocation Bachelor Degree
Reason of moving to Germany MBA Program
When did you move? 2019
How old were you? 27
Are you still in Germany? Yes
What is your current occupation? Working in Germany!
What is your future goal? Career in Germany, Family Reunion
Would you like to stay in Germany? Yes

Chapter 1: Dream To Study Abroad

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Sounds like the start of a good story. Doesn’t it?

I have been through a lot! But all went smoothly and exactly as I planned.

I was a very active child that people got irritated by my active mind. I was curious and couldn’t sit still. I always had ideas and I always wanted to do something. I was drawing a lot since childhood, painting, sketching (since 2nd class). I started writing poems and articles in class 5 and I always enjoyed writing, I do that still. My articles, in fact, got published in India! Sadly, they are not in the English language to share. I always liked to read, to study, and it paid off!

I studied an Engineering Diploma and a Business Administration Bachelor. I took IELTS and scored 7.0, which was a very safe bet to apply for programs abroad. A desire for further studies came to me after 2-3 years of working in India. I realized, that if I would like to develop, I would need to have a Master’s degree. I needed to learn more and had to educate myself on different topics, hence I started looking for MBA options.


If I want to study Master, why not to choose the best place?

By looking at the different options, I realized, it makes no sense to stick only with India. I analyzed the profiles of different countries (Australia, USA, UK, Germany). I came to know if we compare the living costs and benefits, Germany is very high in the rank.

And here I was… applying only to one school in one country.


I successfully got an offer and arrived in Germany. I love my MBA program. I easily found a job. I love my job! Sounds too good to be true? Everything went exactly how I had planned. For me it happened so smoothly, I don’t know why. Normally it's not like that.

How I approached German education and employment: strategically. I started looking for work opportunities when I was back in India, I applied for a few positions, after I had secured my place at a university and paid the deposit to a university in Germany.

I wanted to work in the field with what I studied until now and it worked out. I was searching for a job on LinkedIn and XING and I came across one job posting on LinkedIn, which I applied for. After coming here, I got in touch with them in person because they invited me for an interview. After an in-person interview, I confirmed my interest in the role (Business Process Manager – working student). Then they called me for the next interview. I cleared both interviews very well. They were happy with my performance.

Everything was handy: my education in Germany and my work experience in India for me to land this job! I work in a multinational Fintech company which is growing very fast. I do business process management. What do we do? We manage all the processes, i.e. governance. The role is to implement a new process, as an example if there is in any project with the need for extra developers, and they want to have temporary workers for the project, there should always a process to follow (the steps to hire a person). That process we design, implement, modify, and if there are challenges we are constantly in touch to check if processes are being followed. I am responsible for this and I like it so much. It is very interesting.

I got the job I wanted. I looked for this company when I was in India but it was only possible to secure it after I was enrolled in the German MBA Program with permission to work. That’s why everything went smooth. Right now we have off-campus time (MBA studies normally are from October to February and from March to July) and as per my visa, I can work 120 full days a year. I haven’t worked this year yet, that’s why I am taking advantage of it this Summer (working full-time).

Chapter 2: Culture shock

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Everything happened as planned, I have been here with no troubles, but there are some things Indian students need to be aware of:

- I am here since March 2019 and as an Indian in Germany, I would say most of the time I feel comfortable here. The attitude here towards Indian students or Indian people is 70% nice. 30% it is weird. People basically see you differently and do not know how to behave. Maybe people have gone through some different experiences, I guess, whatever the reason is, but they are not 100% friendly.

- The German language is very difficult and you definitely need it. Even while working in English, or in public transport, or in governmental office…

…you have to learn – there is no other way…

If you start studying or working it will be difficult for you to spare time and learn. The German language is difficult for Indians to learn. Start when you are back home! While you have a few months waiting for a visa.

- I come from the West part of India (Gujarat state). Weather is a bit hot, so here in Germany, it is really cool. In Gujarat, we have very hot Summer it could reach +50C you cannot step outside your home. But we are not getting crazy when Summertime comes. But here, when people see the sun in Germany, they go mad, they love it, they place all the tables and chairs outside, and they can sit all day long enjoying the sun. People here love the sun.

- Gujarat is a ‘dry state’. It is not allowed to consume or to sell liquor there, there was a bit of a shock here. You can find alcohol here everywhere! And Germans (or Bavarians) consider beer as bread and start drinking early. Even company lunches can go with beer. Staying away from alcohol takes practice and resistance.

- I come from a vegetarian family, so Oktoberfest is a lot of fun (sarcasm). That would be another shock. If you don’t cook, it is a bit difficult for you to find vegetarian food. I cook and get my ingredients in the Indian grocery stores, there are not many and mostly in the city center. I must travel there every time. But then since vegetarianism and veganism is a new trend in Germany, more and more restaurants are offering at least 1 vegan/vegetarian meal per page.

- I used to feel very weird when coming home from classes, especially after 9 PM. Germans start work early and go home early. In Rajkot, we have nightlife! We would go out at 9 pm and come home at 4 am. People here sleep so early, there is no one on the street. Where are the people? You can feel very lonely and weird here not to see anyone.

- In Germany, it is normal not to know your neighbors. In India? Forget about it. You will know everyone, and everyone will know you. People will want to know everything about you and what you do for a living and how good your business runs. There are beauties of both places, but, frankly speaking, I like that in Germany, everyone minds their own business. I like the way people here are not much interested in your personal stuff, and they keep distance, it is very comfortable for me.

- Distances are very different. Here, with public transport things are easy. In India, it is tough. I like that part of Germany or Munich – good public transport and no big traffic jams. I am so thankful. When I go back to India I look forward (not) to 2-hour traffic jams.

- In India, I have never done house caring things myself, like washing dishes. We hire people for the kitchen and for cleaning. They are searching for a job, and we are happy to employ people because we can afford it. My husband has a cook and a servant. It is the way things are in India. In Munich, I do everything myself!

Chapter 3: Future

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Everything is pretty good as of now. I have just finished my MBA. The MBA is challenging but very helpful. I am very much familiar with the concept of my current job thanks to my MBA. I can see the relevance of the subjects and I am really feeling connected with what I am working. I am happy about it.

When my MBA classes were held I was working part-time (240 half days a year) and when students complete the MBA they can work as a regular employee.

I already had a conversation with my company about my future and they would be happy if I were to continue working for them after my studies. We talked about long-term possibilities. Win-win situation!

I would stay for a while in Germany because it is just the beginning of my career here, I want to learn about different cultures and to explore Europe. I would love to travel around. Definitely, for some years. My life right now is all about my career. If I find something very attractive in India, I will think of going back. I am set, now it is the turn of my spouse.

My husband, Kandarp, will be moving here for his Master’s as well. We are looking for a good and affordable options for spouses to come to Germany, as he is a Mechanical Engineer and a budget for private education for two is much more difficult to organize.         

Even before our marriage (back then when he was single), while doing his Bachelor he already wanted to come to Germany and study his Masters. He was so interested to learn here because he always says: “Germany – is the mother of machines!”. As soon as he finished his Bachelor, he decided to ignore his dream, as he had gotten a job. It got delayed, delayed, and delayed. But now it is the best time to go: to take a break from the job and to go for Masters as well. We are considering Master in Engineering, MBA, online MBA, study visa and spouse visa opportunities right now.

The world is your oyster! Make the right decision, Kandarp! But make sure to learn German before you arrive, please! Bitte!!!


Lyaysan Sharipova - MBA Student From Russia

Yana Immis

Originally from Russia, from the Republic of Bashkortostan, she went to Germany to study abroad. Now she works at a Japanese company in Munich as a Partner Business Sales Manager Europe with a bright future ahead of her! See how a country girl became the senior manager in the fashion industry - read Lyaysan’s success story here.

   
Place of Birth Russia
Nationality Russian by passport. I identify myself as Bashkir!
Where did you live? Ufa (Republic of Bashkortostan), Munich(Germany)
Education Level Prior to Relocation Bachelor
Reason of moving to Germany MBA
When did you move? 2010
How old were you? 22
Are you still in Germany? Yes
What is your future goal? Career

Chapter 1: Russia

I come from a simple family, we never had the financing possibility for private universities or for studying abroad. I studied all my life with a 100% GPA until my dream came true.

I was studying for two Bachelor’s degrees parallel in Russia:

  1. International Relations

  2. Criminal Justice

Exciting, isn’t it?

The moment I heard info about studying abroad from my friends, classmates, my family, I felt that was the right path for me! I also heard about the Study Abroad Grant in my republic for young professionals.


Is that universe giving me signs? And I was like Oh!

That gotta be a sign, let me do everything to make it happen!


I forgot to mention my English skills were weak at that moment. The main prerequisite was to have an IELTS. Well, a small challenge on the way to success, I thought. Let’s improve my English in a few months!

I started learning the language and prayed. I visualized in my mind a picture of me receiving it and that I would make it. And I did make it! I got fully funded to study abroad! I qualified because I worked hard, learnt the language and also with a bit of luck!


Always be proud of where you are coming from and of who you are! That defines your future and don’t forget to work hard. Study hard. Party hard.


I had no time to think. I had the money and I had to go abroad. I found an MBA program (1 year long) in Munich to study in English and off I went. Bye Russia! Hello Germany!

Advice to students: do proper research before moving. I was not ready! Neither with languages nor with bureaucracy. Take your time with everything.

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Chapter 2: Germany

I arrived and started studying… but first let me tell you this: I was walking for hours! I have not been to Europe before (only the USA). Munich is so beautiful - I was looking at buildings and streets accepting the reality: I AM IN GERMANY HURRAY!!!

I wanted to enjoy a year doing my MBA abroad, it would be a super year, it would be a great year I thought. And hey, it was exactly how I imagined it or even better!!!

… after the first lesson though, my professor told me that I would fail the course, the semester, and the university because my English skills were weak. That was a great wake up call! How did I manage that? Goodbye social life, hello studying!


I was working hard (again) to improve my C’s D’s and F’s to 100% GPA in the last semester (yay!). I AM BACK!


I loved studying in Europe: group works, my super international classmates, smooth communication, presentations, no theoretical learning but rather hands-on. So different and so cool! You become bulletproof for the future work in Europe. The studies are structured so well that you start believing in yourself after all the subjects you learn.


THANK YOU to everyone who carried me on their backs to help me pass semesters. AMEN!


Negatives? Some professors were hell. Very professional but literally enjoying when students suffer from the workload. There was one particular professor I remember… I will never forget that. I will never…

I finished my MBA then I moved back to Russia to finish my 2nd degree there as well, worked there a bit but couldn’t wait to return!

Job seeking visa is there for a reason – don’t waste time – search for a job asap! I got a visa for 3 years right away Yay! (everything is so subjective in the immigration office in Germany).

MBA is tough but what is tougher is to combine new friendships, parties, German language learning, and searching for a job. One moment I realized it was too much: party, new people, I needed to start and to focus on myself. And this is how my work life started.

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Chapter 3: Bullet-Proof Future

How do you achieve it?

ТРУД УПОРСТВО ЦЕЛЕУСТРЕМЛЕННОСТЬ!

HARD-WORK, PERSISTENCE, WELL DEFINED PURPOSE

The main reason why I was searching for a job is to get work experience in Europe on my CV. I didn’t have any long-term intentions there. How I approached it?

  • I asked everyone I knew: classmates, friends, professors, and started early morning every day applying to all jobs possible!

  • I think I sent my CV out for 3 months straight!

The whole experience was really hard, you think you are not good enough or you are even being told that you lack creativity. It is really hard to hear things like that when you are young and vulnerable. When you are a grown-up with years and years of work experience it doesn’t feel so bad. The world changed upside down.

The moment I was about to give up I got a job. I was really close to returning to Russia forever. I got invited for an in-face interview. When I arrived there, it was the smoothest job interview in my life! I got hired right away for a trainee position in International Marketing & Product Planning department.

I remember my marketing lessons from the MBA class. That’s the time I developed a passion for the fashion industry and marketing and, consequently, marketing in the fashion industry.


Actually, I remember back then… when I was sending my CV out I fell in love with their website and thought it would be great to be a part of their team…


Charmant Group is a Japanese-based company with a European head office in Munich - it is so exciting: many colleagues are from Japan. My job offer was exactly what I wished for! I was hungry to learn and I worked my ass off.

They hired me for 3 months and they passed by in 1 day for me. After 3 months I asked to extend my contract. Fashion industry sales cycles are way longer than 3 months. I insisted that they hire me for a year. They allowed me to stay! A year in a Japanese company what a dream!

Russian & English were the languages they were interested in. One of my first bosses was Japanese and was very very strict. He was pushing me to the limits, correcting me, and explaining everything in detail to me. Now looking back I am very thankful to him because of all the knowledge. He really made me work. I gained a lot of experience.

You need to learn that in Europe you must ASK for things (salary, extension etc) but you need to be READY TO ASK WITH FACTS. You must know how you can add value to the company!

I really wanted to stay, but I didn’t know I would stay there for a year or more…


…surprisingly, they offered me a full-time position…


Now, I have been with them for the last 8 years and I have been promoted 5 times! Trainee -> Sales Manager. Thanks to my international relations and business degrees I can understand cross-cultural issues and travel around the globe offering fashion products with my company. I had an opportunity to work with people from different countries like Japan, Netherlands, Belgium, UK, Germany, France. :) Globalization at its best!

Thanks to my company I was sent to Japan already twice on a business trip! I love Japan!!!

Finding a job is easy in comparison to the retention rates in Germany at the workplace. You must show your worth, you must make sure you excel at what you do and that you are continuously learning. Otherwise, you will be gone fast!


I would never want to leave Munich just like that.

  • Social security is so much better here.

  • COVID19 situation? Look at how a Japanese company based in Munich takes care of you.

  • Company? My company supports me and provides everything for distance working.

  • D-R-E-A-M.

  • I can already change my residence permit to a German passport.

    • I am waiting to make a decision so that I can travel to Russia without problems. If you get the German passport you must cancel the Russian one and it could create many complications back home.


P.S. Bahij, Ainur, Sofia, Edgar, Osanna, Vladimir, Irina, Karolina, Alexey, Simon – all of my classmates achieved what they wanted. Some are in Switzerland, Serbia, Kazakhstan, Austria, Russia, Spain – if you want to stay in Germany – you will stay. If you don’t – you won’t. The universe opens doors to those who picture it and aim for it (just like I did with my grant).

The best of luck to all the foreign students in their adventure!

It can be the best time of your life!